Would any of the ex-gay supporters believe it is a viable attempt if they know you’re doing it with a particular result already in mind? I mean, your set of rules indicates you still have a boyfriend… Sexuality isn’t just about sex. It’s about emotions as well.

It’s not exactly following the principles of Scientific Method, is what I’m saying.

I don’t exactly know how committed you are to this but I tried for 3 years with lots of different methods and it lead me to deep depression, suicide attempts and self harm. One of my friends even committed suicide.

I am not sure about the reasons why you are doing this. I’m sure you have good intentions but to be honest I find it deeply offensive, like it makes a mockery of the reasons I went into the ex-gay ministries. I actually believed everything that they told me.

I never went into the ex-gay ministries to try and change…I went in to them to be ‘the man that God wanted me to be’ or so I thought, ‘change’ as such was meant to be a result of the journey of holiness towards God.

Be careful…I am not sure that I agree with your attempts but this is a free country and you can do what you want. Just please know that this is no laughing matter, it is deeply serious for many people and causes so much more harm than you can possibly realise.

I hope you understand why I am writing this.

hey JaydWoods……considering that there is no scientific evidence both before and after ex-gay ministries came on the science that anyone can change their sexual orientation ….and considering that you have already accepted that you are gay…….and considering that you already know it wont work……it does seem a tad strange that you would invest time and energy in this.

One guy on the forum said he actually lost his 20′s trying to go from gay to straight in ex-gay programs……no living as a happy fulfilled gay man……he regrets that now.

hey JaydWoods……considering that there is no scientific evidence both before and after ex-gay ministries came on the science that anyone can change their sexual orientation ….and considering that you have already accepted that you are gay…….and considering that you already know it wont work……it does seem a tad strange that you would invest time and energy in this.

One guy on the forum said he actually lost his 20′s trying to go from gay to straight in ex-gay programs……no living as a happy fulfilled gay man……he regrets that now.

I really believe that it will not be a waste a time as my goals are to have people really look into the different possibilities for those identifying in the GLBT community. I am very excited that there are organizations and online forums like this one that are both religious and accept the GLBT community. I think it is very beneficial for both religious organizations, GLBT organizations, psychological organizations, and ex gay comrades. And I have found an interesting book that debunks a lot of the ideas that sexuality is predominantly a result of birth alone. My Genes Made Me Do it has compelling evidence that shows some of the ideas that ex gays may have their ideas right with how we are socialized to be gay instead of just born that way.

Before this I would have generally looked at biological answers. However my mind is still open to this. Thank you for your concern and support. It is really appreciated.

Jayd

I haven’t been involved on this forum for a long time and I have come to learn some things about myself and others since than. One of those things being that just because you think you have a brilliant controversial idea doesn’t mean you should go through with it.

I forgot that the people here on this forum were humans who have gone through loss and struggle and many people who had been sexually oppressed and religiously ridiculed by a distorted faith that didn’t practice the true value of love.

In the few cases in which people have claimed that they have switched their sexual orientations there was much more involved that included a false idea of what being gay contained of, meaning just because you have sex with the same sex once doesn’t mean you are gay. Just as living a “straight” life doesn’t mean you are truly straight. Also there is the factor of bisexuality that plays into “sexual orientation change”.

I had done this to drive traffic first off, and to prove something that had already been right before me. And that is there are churches who profit off from trying to change peoples sexual orientation. And many organizations will provide false statistics or blow statistics out of proportion in order to capitalize off from those who are struggling to understand their sexual orientation.

This was a selfish conceded act that I have come to understand as embarrassing and rude to those who have suffered through the “hell” that many gays and lesbians face when approached with the conflict between church and sexual orientation.

My apologies will never be enough.

These are the sorts of stories that aggravate me and make me feel bad for trying to change it. I can’t believe they did that to you. That is so ridiculous. I feel so terrible and please read my apology above.

The ex gay subject has to be the most absurd thing within all of the lgbt hate anyone could be exposed to. This is ludicrous to me. I am so sorry for have ever falsely trying to change my sexual orientation.

Thanks

Hi again JaydWoods

I heartily second what avb has written above. Well put, avb!

Blessings,

Ann Maree

JaydWoods, it takes guts to admit when you’ve made a mistake, to own the responsibility for it, and to do your best to make amends. I admire anyone who does that. The important thing is that you have learned something and gained a deeper insight through your experience and that is a good thing. Thank you for your apology.

Blessings,

Meg